In the very first episode of Catch Our Drift podcast Helen Scales and Oliver Steeds will be bringing you amazing stories of survival – survival at sea but also survival of our sea. We are joined by Chris Lemons, who got about as close to oblivion at the bottom of the ocean as is humanly possible, author Ian Urbina who has some shocking stories of human slavery and survival at sea and Umbrella Academy’s Robert Sheehan sings a hearty sea shanty with Devon’s Mariner’s Away.



Ian Urbina, a former investigative reporter for the New York Times, is the director of The Outlaw Ocean Project, a non-profit journalism organization based in Washington, D.C., focuses on reporting about environmental and human rights crimes at sea. The Outlaw Ocean Project reporting is ongoing and that The Outlaw Ocean has a paid newsletter that will allow people to support the journalism and receive regular updates on the project. Paid subscribers get early access to investigations, behind-the-scenes background on why and how Ian landed each story, candid input on what certain stakeholders are, can or should be doing about the issues covered, archival access to previously published videos and written pieces, and alerts and exclusives from The Outlaw Ocean Music Project.

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Chris Lemons is a commercial diver who specialises in saturation diving, which involves living in the claustrophobic confines of a decompression chamber for 28 days, commuting daily to the sea bed in a diving bell. In September 2012, after a freak accident he was left on the sea bed in complete darkness 100 meters below the surface with only 5 minutes of emergency gas. He was there for almost 40 minutes. He tells us his extraordinary story of survival.

Chris’ website


Robert Sheehan is an Irish actor.  Best known for television roles in Misfits and The Umbrella Academy as well as film roles such as Mortal Engines. He has received multiple Irish Film and Television and BAFTA nominations and in 2020 was listed as one of Ireland’s greatest film actors in the Irish Times.

He also loves to sing and joins us on the podcast to learn to sing a sea shanty.


Trev Munkenbeck sings with Mariners Away – a sea shanty group from the Northern flanks of Dartmoor in the west of England.